‘ZIO: How did you guys meet? Did you guys have an equal obsession with trains, or did one of you get the other one hooked?

UTAH & ETHER: We met back in 2005 through someone who was a mutual friend at the time. There was a plan for a group of us to go on a road trip together to St. Louis to paint the light-rail, and the mutual friend had to back out at the last minute due to some work-related commitments. So we traveled together and kept in touch afterwards, and everything just went from there. We each had our own interest in graffiti and trains before meeting, and were both quite active and had made names for ourselves in our own cities (New York and Chicago), so it was only natural that when we linked up, we shared our common interests with each other.

When and why did you decide to move overseas? You guys have been nomadic for a few years now, so where do you consider “home”?

Due to our colorful legal background, we decided to leave America. At a certain point, it became apparent that staying in the U.S. and continuing to paint and live as we had become accustomed to was just not a viable reality. So we decided to move to Asia, as we saw it as a kind of “uncharted territory” at the time. This was before the recent trend of Asia as a graffiti destination. A few years ago, most Asian cities didn’t really have any sort of “graffiti scene,” which was nice for us. Also at this time, many metro systems in Asia had never been painted, which was definitely appealing. So we resided in Asia for almost three years, mainly traveling and painting. In that time, we painted most of the metro systems on the continent and visited almost all of the major cities. At the end of 2013, we decided it was time for a change, as we’d been in Asia for a while by then, and were starting to feel a bit restless. Europe was a somewhat obvious choice for us, as we have quite a few good friends out here. Also, with so many countries in such close proximity to one another, it’s fairly easy to travel, paint a lot and stay active out here….’

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